DNA Research on the Brereton Surname

KIT 307937 does not match the markers for G-M377

During the change of the y-haplotree which took place on 25 April 2014, FTDNA has changed the predicted haplogroup for Kit 307937 from R1b1a2 to G-M377

This seems to be a mistake since as can been seen in the table below, the kit isdoes not match 82 members of the G-3777 project who have G-M377 as there terminal SNP. Look especially at the results coloured. These are all for slowly mutating markers - one mutation in more than 740 generations on average, which would be at least 15,000 years, and the genetic difference is at least 2 steps in each of these. The 6 somewhat more rapidly mutating markers coloured also differ by 2 steps genetic distance and add further prove that KIT 307937 has been wrongly placed by FTDNA in their new haplotree.

 

I think FTDNA ought to make a better prediction. Just looking at this kit's Y-25 matches at GD of 0, 1 and 2, I would predict R-L51 with some certainty and probably R-P310. Surpisingly the kit does not have any matches at all at Y-37 perhaps because of the unusual values of DYS442=14 and DYS438=13, which makes me uncertain about matches to branches below P310, and actually makes me wonder whether P310 would be right. If FTDNA cant do a better prediction, should it not offer a free "SNP Assurance Program" Backbone Haplogroup test?

Michael Sandford 6 May 2014

 

  

DYS393

DYS390

DYS19

DYS391

DYS385

DYS426

DYS388

DYS439

DYS389i

DYS392

DYS389ii

DYS458

DYS459

DYS455

DYS454

DYS447

DYS437

DYS448

DYS449

DYS464

DYS460

Y-GATA-H4

YCAII

DYS456

DYS607

DYS576

DYS570

CDY

DYS442

DYS438

  
 

generations for one mutation

1316

322

662

377

442

210

538

1923

413

1010

333

123

758

6250

6250

379

1010

741

119

177

249

481

813

136

243

98

127

28

309

1818

  

307937

R1b or G-M377?

13

24

14

11

11-15

12

12

12

12

13

29

17

9-10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15-15-17-18

10

12

19-24

16

15

17

17

35-40

14

13

  

KIT

HAPLO-SNP

                                

MEMBERS OF G2b-M377 / L72 / L183 / M283 Y Haplogroup Project (formerly G2c) SELECTING only those listed with terminal G-M377 (65 are tested , 17 are predicted)

  

201466

G-M377

13

23

15

10

17-17

11

12

12

14

11

31

15

8-9

11

11

23

16

22

30

12-14-14-15

11

10

20-20

15

16

17

20

34-35

12

10

  

N43746

G-M377

13

23

16

10

16-18

11

12

13

14

11

30

16

9-9

12

11

23

15

21

31

14-14-14-16

11

10

20-20

15

15

16

19

33-34

12

10

  

47955

G-M377

13

23

16

11

13-16

11

12

11

13

11

30

19

9-9

11

11

24

17

21

28

13-15-15-15

11

11

20-20

15

15

17

17

33-34

12

10

  

N19100

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

30

18

8-9

11

11

23

16

21

28

14-14-14-14

11

12

20-20

15

15

18

17

33-35

12

10

  

N39323

G-M377

13

23

16

12

13-17

11

12

12

14

11

32

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

30

13-14-14-15

11

11

20-21

16

15

16

18

34-36

12

10

  

159519

G-M377

12

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

17

8-9

11

11

24

17

21

34

13-14-15-15

11

10

20-20

17

15

16

18

32-33

12

10

  

37213

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

23

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

15

15

16

34-34

12

10

  

37176

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-34

12

10

  

33083

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

112159

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

72341

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

12

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

33-36

12

10

  

132072

G-M377

12

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

207145

G-M377

12

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

19

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-15-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

567

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-15

11

12

12

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

989

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

12

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

E9225

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-17

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-36

12

10

  

55310

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

15

11

33

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

17

34-35

12

10

  

N19292

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

11

10

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

191885

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

10

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

53345

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

13-14-14-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

2253

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

22

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

14

16

34-35

12

10

  

208453

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

206344

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

211149

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

219976

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

12

24

16

21

29

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

13

10

  

11975

G-M377

13

24

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-36

12

10

  

130101

G-M377

13

24

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

11-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

123293

G-M377

13

24

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

15

11

33

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

14-15-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

73394

G-M377

12

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

16

16

34-35

12

10

  

N76815

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

16

16

34-35

12

10

  

N58633

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

16

16

34-35

12

10

  

N10414

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

9

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

35-35

12

10

  

59935

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

13

11

30

19

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

N101803

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

35467

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

17

34-35

12

10

  

94259

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

71477

G-M377

13

23

16

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

27

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

117304

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

35-36

12

10

  

161136

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

33-36

12

10

  

113491

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

34

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

33-35

12

10

  

E14555

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

12

13

11

31

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

201505

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-17

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-16

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-36

12

10

  

70426

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

15

34-35

12

10

  

65

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

19

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

15

34-35

12

10

  

124158

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

19

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

32-35

12

10

  

43043

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

198350

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

34-35

13

10

  

18248

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

33

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

N1899

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

33

18

8-9

11

11

25

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

18-20

18

16

15

16

34-36

12

10

  

1325

G-M377

13

23

14

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

251127

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-15

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

33-35

12

10

  

167259

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

13

11

31

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

33-35

12

10

  

86138

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

13

11

31

19

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

10

20-20

17

16

15

15

34-35

12

11

  

155243

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

13

11

31

19

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

33-36

12

10

  

77474

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

N4696

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

173455

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

247248

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

31

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

14-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

N35324

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

N68820

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

223267

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-14-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

302525

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

17

34-35

12

10

  

221405

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

15

21

28

13-14-15-15

9

13

20-20

17

16

15

16

35-35

12

10

  

258003

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

20

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

15

15

16

34-35

12

11

  

N34669

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

12-14-15-15

9

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

306334

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

15

15

16

35-36

12

10

  

U2942

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

33-35

12

10

  

284150

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

36-36

12

10

  

234232

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

148754

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

25

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

9

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

180320

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

12

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

15

34-34

12

10

  

N92961

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

12

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

33-35

12

10

  

N96616

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

12

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

33-35

12

10

  

289176

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

19

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-14-15

9

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

93256

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

33

18

8-9

11

11

25

16

20

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

18-20

18

16

15

16

34-36

12

10

  

261246

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

11

15

11

33

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

14-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

16

16

15

16

34-36

12

10

  

206795

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

12

13

11

31

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

33-34

12

10

  

B5819

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

12

13

11

31

17

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

29

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

13

10

  

311811

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

12

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

10

20-20

17

16

16

16

35-35

12

10

  

279895

G-M377

13

23

15

10

13-16

11

12

12

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

15

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

112544

G-M377

13

23

15

10

14-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-8

12

11

24

16

21

28

13-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10

  

251290

G-M377

13

23

16

10

13-16

11

12

11

14

11

32

18

8-9

11

11

24

16

21

28

13-13-14-14-15-15

10

11

20-20

17

16

15

16

34-35

12

10